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by The Other Favorites

Immaculate production and a focus on songwriting pull together the influences of classic rock, bluegrass, chamber music and R&B into a surprisingly cohesive whole.
Genre: Folk: Folk-Rock
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  Song Share Time Download
1. Solid Ground
3:17 $0.99
2. The Ballad of John McCrae
4:59 $0.99
3. Pig Farming
2:21 $0.99
4. Coney Island Fair
3:55 $0.99
5. Bitter Tune
3:33 $0.99
6. Number One in America
3:41 $0.99
7. Heart of the Country
3:24 $0.99
8. House of Yes
3:25 $0.99
9. Sketch, #1
0:24 $0.99
10. Saturn Rising
3:25 $0.99
11. Sketch, #2
0:40 $0.99
12. Night Shift / Entomology
4:37 $0.99
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Album Notes
The Other Favorites is the longtime Americana project of Carson McKee and Josh Turner. Their first full-length record in 7 years, Naysayer was written mostly in January of 2018 and recorded at the home of Turner's friend and fellow Butler University graduate Andy Riehle. Though known for performing many or all of the instrumental parts on their recordings, the group chose on this project to enlist the talent of string virtuosi Jacob Warren and Grant Flick, who Turner met while participating in the Acoustic Music Seminar at the Savannah Music Festival in 2015. With the addition of local Milwaukee drummer Joe Howard, the band has achieved a more fully realized vision of the distinctive songwriting which has always anchored their sound. From the classic rock anthem of "Number One In America" to the delicate earnestness of "Coney Island Fair," Turner and McKee's childhood musical pairing has fully come to maturity.



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Ron Balentine

I would first like to say that I love The Other Favorites. I have been watching their careers for quite a while now on YouTube as have hundreds of thousands of their fans.

The talents that these two young musicians bring to the table is astounding. Josh Turner is a truly talented multi-instrumentalist, composer, arranger, producer and video whiz kid who BTW, can sing his heart out. Carson McKee is a velvety voiced heart throb with a quick smile and a mighty songwriter who wields his pen without mercy for all to hear. His melodies are simple and “familiar” without being worn out and cliched. That my friends is no easy task.

In fact I think these guys are so good I fear that no one tells them when they don't get it right. So, I would like to try and give these guys some constructive criticism. Good, solid, positive criticism is very important for talent to hear at this stage in their development because they are trying to get to the next level. The success they have achieved so far is no indicator that they can make it further.

So, please, No hate mail. I've already stated that I love them. Besides, who am I to say? Nobody really. I am an audio engineer and I've been in the entertainment business for the last forty years as well as musician, songwriter, etc. But really I'm just a fan who wants to help.

I would like to talk about the new album but first some general observations.
At this point I would like to talk directly to you if you don't mind.

First, the name. The Other Favorites? What does that mean? It's an inside joke that only a few people get. It doesn't roll off the toung and it is very forgetable. How about Turner and McKee? How can that be bad? Think Simon and Garfunkel, Lennon and McCartney, Barnum and Bailey. Names work it is a proven fact. It reminds me of the meann the Wonders?

Invest in a publicist right away. We want to know more about you. I could not find a website for you. I guess websites are passe' but a Facebook page doesn't cut it. We need to know your tour schedule, who you are dating and what your favorite color is. Take a cue from that other video band the Monkees. You have to go a long way to get too much press. Doing promotion yourself is no longer a viable option. You don't have the time or the expertise.

Speaking of time. Josh, I love all the collaborations that you do. I get that you are a creative guy with lots of outlets and I totally admire that. But stop it. Stop it right now. You MUST put all of your resources and time into this band. The only way to get BIG is to concentrate on the one thing that is going to get you there. And believe me when I say that is Carson McKee. None of your other collaborators have that much Star quality. You guys are great together and you need each other. You need side men but you do not need any more lead singers. I love Kingdom Jasmine and Larkin Dodgen both but they are not going to get you there.

I can not wait to hear you guys with this quality material go into a real studio with a seasoned Producer who knows how to edit your material and squeeze the best performances out of you. It is very difficult to be engineer, producer, songwriter and performer. Only a select few have ever made it work. And you guys are not there yet. Try to find a producer that is sympathetic but ruthless. I know it's hard to let go but where would James Taylor be without Peter Asher? Or, Steely Dan without Gary Katz? Even the Beatles without Sir George Martin. Still back in the cellar that's where.

New York City? Really? No. LA or Nashville is where the music business is. Unless you want to play jazz or show tunes then NY would be the place but not Americana. Even Austin would be a better choice.

Okay, the album Naysayer. Obviously their best album yet. There are at least four, maybe five quality songs here. Carson and Josh are really getting it down. Solid Ground is the first contender for my new favorite. I won't go into all of the influences I hear but I love everyone of them. Good chorus, fun hooks, lyrics make sense. What more do you want.

The Ballad of John McCrae, what a stunner. I liked this one from the very first listen. One problem with issuing these as live takes on YT is that we get used to hearing them that way. I think they did a good job of adding some depth hear without overdoing it. Still have to get used to it.

Pig Farming, a fun romp and I love the minor change but it does not belong here.

Coney Island Fair, I am in love. This is one of those melodies we know but have never heard before. They live in the air for Fairy Folk like Carson and Josh to discover. The lyric is just perfect for it and no cliche to be found.
BTW Josh, thanks for leaving the reverb on the shelf. Your voices are so pure and they sound lush as a mound of pure dry fine sand.

Bitter Tune, my jaw is on the floor. I hear a lot of Josh in this little masterpiece but Carson's lyric is so deep and surprising in it's honesty but still a secret place. great playing too. More please.

Number One in America is a great title. I'm torn on this one. It's kind of catchy and fun but the old cliche is creeping in here. Mostly from the turnarounds which are very old and overdone. I think the solo was mailed in overnight. The tempo is wrong. It should be much faster. The drummer did a good job keeping this tempo from completely sucking. If I was producing I would have sent you back to the drawing board on this one.

Heart Of The Country is a very well done cover of a deep cut off the Ram album by none other than Sir Paul McCartney. These guys obviously love Paul and their joy here is contagious. Vocals are smashing except for the “Whoa, whoa whoa's which are a little pitchy. So, you guys are human after all. I love the jamming on the end. This is why they call it “playing” music. Great fun.

House of Yes. Another great title. Just when you think it's gonna go south you get a chorus that goes “Stilettos, stilettos, you wore stilettos.” Only problem is that it should have come after the first verse.”Don't bore us, get to the chorus”. But this one grows on you like a Chia Pet. Very whacky and wonderful in ¾ time.

Sketch #1. No

Saturn Rising may be the strongest track on the record. Except... I think they over produced it here on the album. The live version on YT was much better. The voices were not as forced. They were more relaxed. Why Josh decided you use the verb on this one I don't know. But there it is...sticking out like a sore thumb. I think he knew this was the best track and felt like he had to produce it more? This is a simple, contemplative tune that needs to breath. Anyway, great lyrics and some pretty chords. I doubt David Crosby will sue.

Sketch #2 Really?

Night Shift / Entomology, a pretty song that was never finished. I don't care for the delayed vocal. Some of Josh's best guitar work here. Quite lovely. Carson too BTW. Could have been a better finish if it were.

As I mentioned earlier, this is the best effort so far. Find a manger and a producer who you will soon hate. Get a record deal already. You have hundred of thousands of fans. That should make any company drool. With some professional promotion you guys can step up to the next level and that means a national tour. I'm sure you know all of this. We are all on your side. Be strong. Keep playing.

Tony Alumkal

Amazing Talent!
Carson and Josh are among the most talented songwriters on the planet imho. This album moves effortless from Tom Petty inspired rock to Nickel Creek inspired blue grass to Simon and Garfunkel like Americana and around again. Highly recommended.

I appreciate Ron's long post, but would like to respectfully disagree with the career advice. I think these guys know what they are doing. Major labels have become so toxic that most musicians are best off steering clear. Josh's many Youtube collaborations are not a distraction but are how he makes a living.